I always had an open door policy and kept my tribe healthy by encouraging reciprocation. Some members lost interest and left. Others who did not want to spam their Twitter followers also left. Back then it cost "bones" to invite a member who was already in Triberr. They called it inbreeding. Even though chiefs had to purchase bones, it was a good system because people would think before inviting someone to their tribe. Tribes were also capped at thirty members.
Triberr Explosion
In September, the bone system was discontinued. Suddenly you can invite people without cost. A Prime membership was created where chiefs could have tribes with up to 150 members. Predictably, an invitation explosion ensued. People I didn't know were inviting me. I was inviting others I didn't know. A new feature called "Follower" status was introduced. This allowed people to lurk outside of the tribe, share the posts, and ask to gain membership.
Is this a good thing? If I look at stats I could be thrilled. I went from:
to this:
But along the way, I lost my sense of community. My stream became clogged with new faces and new people. I diligently checked out their blogs and shared their posts. I dialed my share schedule to the maximum allowed (3 posts an hour). Do the math! 3 posts an hour = 72 posts a day maximum. I now have 269 tribemates. Some of them post multiple times a day. Everytime I log on, my stream is full and I'm always behind.
Some of my tribemates have time sensitive posts, a giveaway or free event. This could get lost in the queue and not sent until days into the future. With the pile of unsent but approved posts, Triberr's database became overloaded. They started aging out posts, dumping packets into the bit bucket. I started missing my initial tribemates' posts only to find them gone by the time I got to it.
The intimate small tribe had grown into a communal hive. I no longer had time to visit and comment, just click, approve, click, approve. And what happened to my twitter feed? goo.gl, goo.gl, goo.gl ... ad nauseum.
The million dollar question - Did you blog hits improve?
No! Even with the increased tribemates, increased sharing and 24 by 7 posts, my blog pageviews did not increase like they did when I first joined Triberr. My Alexa rating is still in the 360,000 range, and I did not see an increase in average pageviews.
Why is that? Simple. My tribemates were also on overload. They could not keep up with the multitude, the flood, the deluge of posts. Their queues were backed up and posts were dropped after five days. And now that Triberr has instituted a daily 100 post limit (still > 72/daily potential), even more of my blog posts will submerge into the ocean of timed-out posts.
What to do?

So that's my Triberr story. What about you? Do you like the new changes? The supertribes? Are you a paying Prime member? What do you think of the impersonal automatic sharing feature? And is all of this defeated when you can only share 72 posts a day?
I'm finding this out myself - always behind on the stream, people who don't RT my posts, etc. I'm with you, I preferred the smaller community feel. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteYep, the number of shares inside my initial two tribes has decreased, so the increased tribemates who don't care about you doesn't help.
DeleteIt's been hard to adjust to the change. When I first joined Triberr, I was able to review every post and comment if I chose to (many times I did). This allowed me to make friends with other bloggers. Now, there is so much in my stream it's hard to keep up. I no longer have the luxury of reading every post and commenting (though I still skim a good portion and comment on those that interest me).
ReplyDeleteI have made some new friends from a new large tribe I was invited to join, but I'm not sure if it's worth the loss of connection I had previously.
I even removed myself from a tribe because I couldn't keep up. I still find Triberr extremely beneficial. I do agree with you, however, that there are ways of using it more effectively than simply clicking and approving posts!
It was easier to click and just approve in the smaller tribe where you knew everyone and the chief kept the tribe pruned of non-sharers. With the larger tribes there are people who are chronic non-sharers. The problem with dropping out is that because my own tribe has dropped in total shares, I would be worst off than before.
DeleteI've enjoyed Triberr and discovered some wonderful people. On some days I don't have time to read every post. I generally share anyway. Lately, I've wondered if it's a good idea to share the posts of those who never reciprocate. I don't like the tit-for-tat approach, but I'm starting to feel like a chump.
ReplyDeleteThere is a secret weapon though. The "Mute" button on the right hand side of each post. It is a little speaker with an "x" on it.
DeleteI don't think chronic non-sharers should be encouraged. Mary, you're a good teammate, but others need to reciprocate at some point.
Great post, Rachelle! This is exactly how I've felt - OVERWHELMED! I cannot get to all the posts and no time to check them out for myself. I miss the communal feeling, too. I'm still trying to figure out a workable system.
ReplyDeleteMelinda, use the "filter" feature to get the posts from the tribe you feel the most communal with first. That works for me.
DeleteThe thing that's most difficult for me is the folks who are posting multiple times a day to their blog. I post an average of once a week. While I'm not adverse to sharing more than I get, it's impossible to tweet all of those, as you say. I also don't have time to peruse all the posts and decide which to pass along.
ReplyDeleteI've seen people "dropping out," not in the sense of quitting a tribe, but not commenting in the tribal stream, not commenting on posts anymore, and not logging in as often.
DeleteWhat I do now is go to my first two tribes first. Those are the people I know the best.
I've instituted exactly your policy, Rachelle. My shares are all based on reciprocity now when I decide who to approve and who to delete. It is so much different than it was before when I shared all my tribe and they all went out in the daytime hours and I had a blast reading all their posts. I've really been considering dropping tribes. My blog hits did increase for a while, but now they have gone back to my post-Triberr explosion values. Don't know what the answer is, except perhaps to drop a tribe or two. Thanks for the post!
ReplyDeleteI used to not pay attention to tit-for-tat, but now with all the strangers and people who don't even bother to introduce themselves when they join your tribe, I'm thinking they're just here to gain tweets not to get to know you or I.
DeleteTriberr has been a huge building tool for me. When they dropped the bones cost to invite tribmates I began to build my own tribe which has been a great thing. I've always used the filter feature to go tribe by tribe to approve posts. it makes it so much easier to deal with the monster stream of 300 tribmates lol. I have a rule that each tribemate gets one post approval. I've found that most of the daunting stream is multiple postings. The one per rule has kept me from going into overload and makes sure everyone gets something out into the twitterverse :)
ReplyDeleteYou're right. I'm doing that also. Somebody posts all the chapters of his upcoming book. Someone else posts a 1-2 line post pointing to someone else's blog. And then there are the paid promo sites who post all of their Free Books Today posts. I used to never "X" a post, but now, it feels more and more like looking at my twitter firehose instead of the tribal feeling it used to be.
DeleteHi Rachelle, I wholeheartedly support your "x" guidelines. In the past week, I've been leaning towards using the "x" button to clean out the flood of posts. I love sharing many of my tribemates' blogs, but when some people are posting four or five times a day or using a post simply to point to someone else's blog, I feel cheated, and I also feel like I'm turning my Twitter account into a spam feed by promoting all of them.
DeleteGreat post! I completely agree. While I haven't been posting on my own blog lately, I have still found it rather difficult to keep up with sharing my tribmates posts. More importantly, like you mentioned, I don't have time to read through that many anymore! I would love to have the time to leave comments and make friends again just like it was in the good ol' triberring days, but seems impossible. Also, you are 100% correct, all that is showing up lately in my twitter feeds are goo.gl constantly. It has become a spamming frenzie and there is very little conversation on twitter anymore. :(
ReplyDeleteSigned,
Losing Interest
Hi Kelly, the reason I don't think we can go back is that everyone in our tribes are likewise overloaded, so they don't spend too much time thinking about us anymore.
DeleteThanks for the tip about filtering your tribal stream - I didn't even think about that! I will definitely use that feature.
ReplyDeleteI've dropped out of a few tribes because of this overwhelming feature...we'll have to see how this all plays out after a few months of watching my blog traffic. :)
I hesitate to drop out because there are always a few people in each tribe that I genuinely like. It's hard to say. I might start doing the "mute" button. I suppose that's why it's there for.
DeleteHi Rachelle,
ReplyDeleteI have over 1000 tribemates. So I know exactly how you feel. I place myself in this situation on purpose so that we can test the upper limits of our capabilities and build a system that will work for bloggers. THAT is the ultimate goal.
Did we give you a loaded gun? Ya, maybe, little bit, perhaps :-)
We want to enable connections among people but we dont want people to feel overwhelmed , lost and without a community. So it's a tweaking process.
We listen, we adjust, we take your feedback into consideration, and ultimately we are bloggers just like you, and we use the system just like you do, so we can relate :-)
Thank you for this valuable feedback. It has NOT gone unnoticed :-)
Dino
Founder of Triberr
Hi Dino, thanks for dropping by. How do you keep up with 1000 tribemates and how do you possibly keep them happy? I know King Solomon had 1000 wives. Do the math. He reigned 40 years so he had a wedding every 2 weeks. Is that the only time he spent with each of them?
DeleteI know in Triberr we can "do" 72 a day, much more than poor Solomon could, but it would take you about two weeks to tweet one post for each tribemate. How many of them would have their arms crossed, lip pouted and foot tapping to wait for you to post them? And as the count goes up of 0 to 6, 7, 8,... don't you think they'd eventually mute you out? And eventually you'd mute them since they never repost you, so instead of a tribe, you have a hive of high-rise apartment dwellers who don't even know their next door neighbor.
This is not a criticism because I do thank you for the awesome technological system you built. I'm sure you worried about scalability and database backups, load balancing and GUI response time and solved some issues which enabled you to make this quantum leap. But now the sociology comes into play.
Interesting post! I've thought about joining Triberr, but hadn't had the opportunity yet. So, my observation is from an outsider's point of view.
ReplyDeleteYour post explains a lot - there were people I used to enjoy interacting with regularly on Twitter, but now I can't find a post specifically from or about THEM without wading through endless tweets about other blogs (I know they use Triberr). If I can't find things to interact with THEM about and all I see is blog spam in their Twitterfeed... well, I'm more likely to give up on that connection and / or not pay as much attention to their tweets. Sad but true.
It is sad. I think I'll do a survey about what types of tweets turn people off and cause people to get unfollowed.
DeleteThe other day I tweeted saying, Hey guys I'm behind on my Triberr, please bear with me. Ha, ha, I got no (zero) response from any tribemate. Shows no one is listening.
An excellent post! I have had to make some hard choices myself. I do know that those who post multiple posts a day are less likely to get my attention. Oh sure, there are times when people post two or more posts in one day. But there are those who just seem to flood their blogs. I find they loose my triberr time. I just don't have enough posts to approve
ReplyDeleteI tried to use Triberr. It was too damned confusing for me. If they lightened up the interface a bit, I might go back and participate (it's a good IDEA). But, if not, I'm out. Great post and insights. WRITE ON!
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